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Interview Date:  June 11 (5:45 p.m.)
    ALEX.:  Now, read that for me again.  I don't believe you can read that.
HOUCHINS:  Dr. Robert P. Alexander, Ph.D.  Professor and Chairman of Management.  College of Business and Applied Science. Telephone number, 696-2312.
   ALEX.:  You're reading pretty small print there for your age.
HOUCHINS:  Ah, never gets too small for me.  Thank you for the card.
   ALEX.:  You're welcome, you're welcome.  I couldn't raise Odey. When I got over there, I guess he'd gone to bed.
HOUCHINS:  Well, I'll be.
   ALEX.:  And, ah, it was a little late now when we got around there, and I just didn't try to disturb him too much.  Every light in the house was off, and I was afraid to disturb, ah.
HOUCHINS:  So you took off.
   ALEX.:  I went up to the door and kind of looked at the house and I left because I knew he hadn't been well, and I thought, well, maybe he'd forgotten and he'd just lay down to rest and I'll get him, I plan to get him, uh, tomorrow, oh, sometime by early afternoon tomorrow.
HOUCHINS:  Early, early.  Yeah, that's the best time.
   ALEX.:  Yeah, after he's had a night of rest.  He'll take a better picture maybe.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.
   ALEX.:  But you're strong.  Those are good pictures I take of you.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, it's been a long time.
   ALEX.:  Yeah. 
       *:  What'd you say?  You were what?
HOUCHINS:  Two year old.
   ALEX.:  Just two year old, huh?
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.
   ALEX.:  We'll get you out here and see if we can get you.   There's a little haze on the mountain here.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, ain't no good evening, in a way.
   ALEX.:  Well.
HOUCHINS:  No sun shinin'.  Shinin' like it's trying' spittin' rain, ain't it?
   ALEX.:  Yeah, it's trying to spit a little rain.  You felt that before I did.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, I caught 'er.  Yeah, I got a good feeling here.
   ALEX.:  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  You know up in that yard where put them pipes down in them holes, and, uh . . .
   ALEX.:  Come on Mr. Houchins, we'll get right here, right here.
HOUCHINS:  And, uh, and dumped 'em, hung 'em in those holes?  Fourteen, sixteen day and night.  And it used to take 'em hundred and some days to get through.
  ALEX.:  And now it's only fourteen to sixteen.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, they put them in there and then a hundred some days gettin' 'em out.  Law, that's how much they speeded up on 'em.  Well, where you want me, brother?
   ALEX.:  I want you right there.  I'm going to shoot from up here. 
HOUCHINS:  You, uh, hear anything interesting flip that on, brother.
   ALEX.:  Okay.  I just want to get the soft, soft tones of your face and so on out here in the light, you know.
HOUCHINS:  Uh huh.
   ALEX.:  So.
HOUCHINS:  Which way you want me to stand, how to stand?  Facing you?
    LISA:  Dad?
   ALEX.:  Naw.  Naw.  I'm going to take about three or four shots out here.  The other night I was afraid of myself.
    LISA:  It is on, Dad.  Want me to turn it off?
   ALEX.:  It's pushed up?
    LISA:  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, feeling good now.
   ALEX.:  That's good.
HOUCHINS:  Wasn't feelin' too hot when you were here before.
   ALEX.:  Yeah, well.
HOUCHINS:  I got over that.  Went over to the doctor and got a shot of habakulgun*?
   ALEX.:  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  Medicine.
   ALEX.:  That ought to help you along a little bit.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
   ALEX.:  Well, you're coming out in the yard.  That's a pretty good walk.  You're going to have to have some, you're going to have to have some beans.
HOUCHINS:  Cornbread is better.
   ALEX.:  Cornbread is better?
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.  It's better than beans.  Cornbread is better than beans.
    LISA:  He needs an ear of corn to eat.
   ALEX.:  He needs an ear of corn to eat, my daughter said.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.
       *:  He has original pieces.  This is all his original pieces.
    LISA:  She goes, "All right."  I went over there and I turned it off and then she looked at me and goes, "Who are you?"
       *:  Who are you?
       *:  And I go, I go, "I'm with my dad and he's interviewing Mrs. Powell," and she goes, "Well, what's your name?"  And I go, "My name is Lisa," and she goes "Umm," and she is so sweet.  She looked like, she looked like something off the comic strip.  She's, she's cute.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, I know Ira.  I used to ____ with her man, you know.  Grain, you know.
   ALEX.:  You thrash for him.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, yeah.  All the time.  Yeah, and then if it was night you stayed there.  I stayed there all night sometimes.
   ALEX.:  They have a, they used to have a gristmill over the mountain there, didn't they?
HOUCHINS:  Huh?
   ALEX.:  Had a gristmill over the mountain?
HOUCHINS:  It was up by here.
   ALEX.:  Was it?
HOUCHINS:  Yeah. 
   ALEX.:  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  It was up about two miles above here.
   ALEX.:  Ah, I see.  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  I thrash corn and buckwheat up there a lot of times.
   ALEX.:  Uh huh.
HOUCHINS:  Iris done run it down and gone.  No more.
   ALEX.:  Was there a lumbermill at Nottingham?  Was there a lumbermill at Nottingham?
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.
   ALEX.:  When would you say it was?
HOUCHINS:  Well, I 'spect it was July.  I think it closed down about July.  Along about twenty-seven, I think.
   ALEX.:  July 27.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, yeah.  Somewhere along in there.
   ALEX.:  Was it single, what was it a band mill, was it?
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.
   ALEX.:  It was a band mill.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, a big mill.
   ALEX.:  Oh, yeah.
HOUCHINS:  They got their logs, uh, back on the Allegheny Mountains, you know, somewhere in Virginia, you know.
   ALEX.:  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  Where they got their timber, their saw timber.
   ALEX.:  I see.
HOUCHINS:  I think I have a, it ain't a book, it's a paper in here on the Winterburn mill.
   ALEX.:  Okay.  Paper on the Winterburn mill.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah, the history of it.
   ALEX.:  The history of it, huh?
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.
   ALEX.:  Well, who published it, you remember?
HOUCHINS:  I don't know.  Leo Young, up there at Durbin had it.
   ALEX.:  Leo Young.
HOUCHINS:  Yeah.  Paul Wellman was the one who wrote it.
   ALEX.:  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  Paul Wellman deserved it.  He wrote the history of it. The beginning and end, you know.
   ALEX.:  Yeah.
HOUCHINS:  When it first started and then when they finished.  It was a long finishing.
   ALEX.:  Well, maybe Mrs. Powell will have that.  She collects a lot of encounters.  Your mentioning it to me is a great _____ help to me.
HOUCHINS:  Published once a month, I think.  __________ tells us things in West Virginia.
   ALEX.:  Yeah.