ALEX.: . . . do, uh, Mr.
Taylor, is sort of tape this
thing, so then I won't have to worry about it, just have
somebody to type it up from the tape and then I'll have it
where I can read it all.
TAYLOR:
Yeah.
ALEX.: But you told me that you were born in
November, I believe.
TAYLOR:
November 21st.
ALEX.: Yeah and, uh . . .
TAYLOR:
1898.
ALEX.: 1898 and that you'd worked pretty much all
this Allegheny country here.
TAYLOR:
Yeah, that's right.
ALEX.: But I got trying to remember the names of the
companies that you worked for and different people you
worked for and I couldn't remember those.
TAYLOR:
Well, uh, it was Warn Lumber Company really the ones that was loggin' the Allegheny and the F____
Lumber Company.
ALEX.: Uh huh.
TAYLOR:
There was two companies in there.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR:
Then there used to be a company worked in there and, uh, at on Galford place. You said you was up
there.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR:
Well, he come, they come from, uh, in Lowe's* Cass, down at Deer Creek.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR:
Was named Stetsinger*. Was the company ____.
ALEX.: Stetsinger*.
TAYLOR:
Yeah.
ALEX.: I see. Well, then you, and you started
cutting about when?
TAYLOR:
Well, I started when I was about, uh, 15 years old. My father died and there was, let's see, four
boys and one
girl and it was pretty hard for
Mother to make it.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR:
And I had to get* out.
ALEX.: Uh huh. So you started when you were about
fifteen.
TAYLOR:
Right.
ALEX.: 'Round the twenties.
TAYLOR:
Well, I didn't cut when I was I was fifteen. I peeled bark in the woods. You know, they took
this rock oak
bark, they peeled it and
hemlock and took it to these tanneries and tanned it for leather.
ALEX.: Oh.
TAYLOR:
Yeah, now they used rock oak bark and hemlock.
ALEX.: Uh huh, made leather out of that?
TAYLOR:
Yeah, they tanned it down in Marlinton and Durbin.
ALEX.: Oh, I see.
TAYLOR:
Yeah, yeah they, I don't know what they use now.
ALEX.: Yeah, cowhides, I guess.
TAYLOR:
Well, yeah they use a lot of cowhides, but, uh, the shoes ain't no count now. I can tell you that.
ALEX.: So you started first in peeling bark?
TAYLOR:
Yeah, and swampin' some.
ALEX.: Swampin'?
TAYLOR:
Roads in the woods.
ALEX.: Yeah. What's swampin'?
TAYLOR:
Well, you, now like you put the roads if you went in the holler you took that side of the hill and this
side and this made roads up here, you know, for 'em to
bring the logs out you had to cut the
tram roads.
ALEX.: I see. So you sorta marked out the roads for
them.
TAYLOR:
Well, no. I, they had what you call a buck swamper. He blazed out and you followed him.
ALEX.: Oh, I see.
TAYLOR:
Yeah. He, now like, if he was goin' up, clear up a ridge, why he blazed up what he wanted cut out of
that road, then
he's move on up maybe 20 feet if the timber
was real thick and blaze another one and just kept goin' that
way.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR:
Then you'd put your main road up this holler. That was the way they brought in the logs off each
side, you see,
the holler.
ALEX.: Yeah, brought them down in and took them right
down the hollow ____.
TAYLOR:
Right, to our landin', where they was landin' 'em at.
ALEX.: I see, huh.
TAYLOR:
There was a lot of loggin' in this country here several years ago. Yeah, that was all it was.
ALEX.: Yeah. So you, you swamped then for a while,
then after that, I guess, you went to cutting.
TAYLOR:
Yeah. When I got about, uh, well, after World War I, I was drafted when I was 18, but I didn't have
to go across.
ALEX.: I see. But you were in the army?
TAYLOR:
Well, I was drafted in the army. But I didn't have to go across. You see, it closed before I got across.
ALEX.: I see, yeah.
TAYLOR:
And I was glad of it.
ALEX.: Yeah, well, then, uh, I guess you saw the
Shay* engines. Did you tell me you worked some on Cheat
Mountain, too?
TAYLOR:
Yeah, I worked on there, well, I'd say I worked there off and on five years straight.
ALEX.: What camp? Do you remember?
TAYLOR:
Well, it was Camp, uh, 10, 12, 16, 20, 24. They run several, well, there was more camps in there,
really, than
that, but I done forgot their, their numbers
of 'em now. But they had every camp numbered.
ALEX.: I see. You worked back there, to, and, uh . .
.
TAYLOR:
Yeah, yeah.
ALEX.: What company was doing that work?
TAYLOR:
Spruce Lumber Company.
ALEX.: You worked for Spruce?
TAYLOR:
Yeah. Then this Mower Lumber Company, you know, bought them out.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR:
Where are they from?
ALEX.: I don't know.
TAYLOR:
They must have originated from down in somewhere in below
Charleston somewhere.
ALEX.: That Mower Lumber Company.
TAYLOR:
Yeah. Yeah, you know, the Spruce logged it, uh, with the King's Chains* 'til they bought it, then they
ran them
skidders in there on the
mountain.
ALEX.: Yeah, well you explained to me yesterday what
a skidder was. You want to explain it again?
TAYLOR: Well, now, a skidder, it worked back to the
railroad where they had this here motor on, it run these
cables and they had a, now like if a, there was a ____ there was an overhead
cable, block. It would come across, up a big
holler. That was an overhead and here's, and it was a buggy on it, what they called a buggy. I
don't what kind of a
buggy it was and, uh, it brought it back here
with a main cable with a big bull hook on it and it, uh,
took these, uh, logs, you see, like, uh, scattered back
and forth and put these chokers on 'em, these cables,
small. Well, they was bigger than your thumb. They'd just
sniggered* in 'em that and maybe they'd get a bunch of
logs in that and they'd get a bunch of logs here and here,
and uh, bring, whenever that there bellboy give the
signal back here to the railroad, these fellows took 'em
up, took 'em up in the air and took 'em clear over top of
everything.
ALEX.: Well, I see. And that's the way
they got them
out.
TAYLOR: That's the way they took 'em out. Yeah, and
they'd bring a lot of 'em, too, at a time. Maybe 40 to 50, a whole drag of 'em.
ALEX.: Is that right?
TAYLOR: Then they had the, see, they had to snug
these cables to maybe three or four big trees and big stumps
to hold 'em, you see. They, sometimes they'd get such a
load they'd pull this tail tree out and maybe all these
others.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR: And let them down, you see, that would bring 'em
down to the ground.
ALEX.: Yeah, they got too much weight.
TAYLOR: Yeah.
ALEX.: Now you say you, uh, you logged part of this
back Allegheny here?
TAYLOR: I had to log all this Allegheny from down here
clear back.
ALEX.: From starting from about where to going,
you're talking.
TAYLOR: Well, it was down
here, right, I'd say, right straight over through here somewhere, clear around.
Course Allegheny, it runs a long way.
ALEX.: Yeah, how far up did you go?
TAYLOR: Well, we went up to clear around to in what
they call Tiger Fort and Sutton* Run in there, that's
straight in here in the north.
ALEX.: I see, my goodness. When did you quit the
woods?
TAYLOR: Well I, I went
in, got into the carpenter business. Worked a while in that. It was
about, I'd say, I quit this carpenter work about 1970.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR: But, uh, in the woods work, it was about 1960
I quit that.
ALEX.: Yeah. Well, you were at it a long period of
time.
TAYLOR: Yeah.
ALEX.: Well, you lived back in some of those camps,
you say, maybe 10 or 12.
TAYLOR: Yeah.
ALEX.: Good food?
TAYLOR: *The best. There's steak and what we call
sawmill gravy. Did you ever eat that?
ALEX.: No, no.
TAYLOR: Well, they make it out of milk and grease, you
see. It is good.
ALEX.: Oh, my.
TAYLOR: Well, it is good.
*:
My daddy used to, he was (navy)*____, and he liked his milk gravy. I guess that's where he got it
from.
TAYLOR: Yeah, that's right. They took, uh, they made
gravy every morning for breakfast. Then they had the very
best steak.
ALEX.: Oh, my goodness.
TAYLOR: Yeah, very best steak. ____. Well, we had
plenty to eat.
ALEX.: I see. Now, at lunch time, what'd you eat?
TAYLOR: Well, they had different things, potatoes,
beans.
ALEX.: You had to come back into camp to eat?
TAYLOR: Right. You had to come back into camp for
your lunch.
ALEX.: Yeah. Well, I guess you got out awful early.
TAYLOR: Got out at six o'clock. ____ by the time when
the stars was still shinin'.
ALEX.: Uh huh. Finish what time?
TAYLOR: Six o'clock. Supposed to be back in camp at
six o'clock.
ALEX.: Yeah. Well, guess a lot of different fellows
passing through.
TAYLOR: Yeah.
They'd come and go, you see. A lot of people come and go. Maybe
they'd get set and maybe they wouldn't, they'd go on to another one. That's the way
they done it.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: And if you didn't stay seven days there on the
mountain with that Spruce Lumber Company, they held, I
think, uh, it was either three or four dollars off your
check, if you didn't stay seven days.
ALEX.: Yeah. You had to stay there if you were going
to get full pay, huh?
TAYLOR: If you didn't get
that, didn't want that took off, you did.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: Yeah, that's
right. But it was a good company to work for, that Spruce Lumber Company.
ALEX.: Uh huh. And you worked for the Warn, too?
TAYLOR: Yeah, Warn Lumber
Company. ____ Lumber Company and this here. I worked for this here, uh, Clover
Lick Edmunds Lumber Company.
ALEX.: Edmunds, he was at Clover Lick?
TAYLOR: Yeah. He had his mill at Clover Lick.
ALEX.: When would you say that was? Your work there?
TAYLOR: That was way up in, uh, about, uh,
late...thirties
ALEX.: About 1930?
TAYLOR: Yeah. He's from down in Tennessee.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR: Bristol, Tennessee, where he was from,
originally from.
ALEX.: Oh, yeah. Huh.
TAYLOR: And the most of all these foremen now come
from Tennessee that worked for the Spruce Lumber Company.
ALEX.: Is that right?
TAYLOR: Yeah. Most all them come from out of the
south.
ALEX.: Did you know those fellows they talked about,
like Shaffer*?
TAYLOR: Yeah. Shaffer* and Hanna was, that was a big
company. Shaffer and Hanna, they was in together.
ALEX.: Uh huh, I see.
But they had this fellow worked for West Virginia Paper and Pulp, was E. P.
Shaffer* or something like that. Were you...
TAYLOR: Yeah. He, well, he . . .
ALEX.: Acquainted with him?
TAYLOR: Well, I wasn't acquainted with him, but I seen
him a lot.
ALEX.: Yeah, I see.
TAYLOR: He come, they come around the woods, you see,
every woop stitch, they'd catch 'em. They had a
motor car they come over that mountain with.
ALEX.: Yeah. Did you know this fellow that kind of
kept telephone lines going, a
fellow by the name of Bruce Crickard?
TAYLOR: Well, I've heard of him. He worked there,
too. Crickard.
ALEX.: Yeah. He's up in years. I've talked with
him.
TAYLOR: Yeah, he worked on the mountain.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: 'Cause I've heard of him.
ALEX.: Yeah. Well,
I'll tell you, you were telling me that story about that fellow that had those
good teams of horses. What was his name? And you were telling me
that story about some
fellow taking them out and jumping them
over the landing.
TAYLOR: That was Ben Campbell.
ALEX.: Ben Campbell?
TAYLOR: Yeah. He was raised up here at Dunmore, well,
he was raised in Virginia. His father come here to
West Virginia.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: Yeah, he had
right around 8 teams, now, that was right around 16 horses.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: And they was good, too. Well, Spruce Lumber
Company had good horses, too. They had good teams.
ALEX.: Yeah. ____ talking to some
fellow, he was
telling me, said that Campbell had gone to court or something
and told . . .
TAYLOR: Yeah. The court, the court was goin' wrong.
The boy that rode this team, he, he went wrong.
ALEX.: Uh huh.
TAYLOR: Well, he wasn't a boy, he was a young man and
he told him to leave that team in the barn and not to take
'em out. It was a black team, it weighed about 1,600
and snappy, aw, they was terrible snappy.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: And he snatched onto this here big chestnut
log and they couldn't pull it, and he just took his line
and give 'em a lap side, sideways, you know.
ALEX.: Uh huh.
TAYLOR: I'm tellin' you, they went through splinters,
tore everything and then, tore everything loose and
jumped over this here rough and tumble landing.
ALEX.: Huh. Wonder it hadn't killed them.
TAYLOR: Yeah. I don't see how they ever got out of it
from, to keep from killin' 'em. You know, a rough and
tumble landing, you make the logs is just jammed in
everywhere, standin' on ends and everything else.
ALEX.: Yeah, yeah. I'll declare. Bet you enjoyed
that work.
TAYLOR: Oh yeah. Yeah, it was, uh, it was clean work
and you felt good all the time, pretty well. You was out
and in, of course, a lot, uh, all kinds of weather.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: It didn't seem to bother you when you're
young, but when you get old . . .
ALEX.: What about, uh, you see the float, the log
floats?
TAYLOR: No, I don't get to see that, never did. I
just seen the pictures of them.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: Float the doggone logs down the Greenbrier
River here, I never did see that. I wasn't old enough,
then.
ALEX.: Oh, ____ big white pine back in those days.
TAYLOR: Well, yeah.
Now they, when they cut a white pine, you see, them days, it was wind-shaken. You know
how the insides of the bark, the slab, they'd be kind of just shiny* like. They'd long butt* that, you see,
and cut it off and throw it away. ____ for them there
logs would sink and get that water in there and sink 'em.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR: And they wouldn't, they ____ about everyone of
'em, them old timeys did. Course I've seen, seen some
of the butts where they took off and they cut trees down.
You wouldn't believe it. I've seen stumps that they've cut
as high as that ceiling there.
ALEX.: They cut that high?
TAYLOR: That's right, to keep from long-buttin' it, to
keep from makin' that extra cut, you see.
ALEX.: Oh, yeah. So they'd just go up on the side of
it and . . .
TAYLOR: Well, uh, just
each man would get a hold of your ketch* saw like that and work it through there
'til he got it down.
ALEX.: As high, as high as he could.
TAYLOR: Yeah.
ALEX.: Maybe stand on something.
TAYLOR: Yeah, probably build 'em up a place to stand.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: And if it was a hillside, the other man had
the advantage on him.
ALEX.: Yeah. Yeah, I can see what you're saying.
TAYLOR: But, now, that was a log like that they
wouldn't take it.
ALEX.: What about, uh, some of the bigger trees that
you've cut. Remember any big ones?“ Scaled down?
TAYLOR: Well, I . . . biggest one I cut, that one I
told you I cut here at ____, up in above Dunville*.
ALEX.: That was a white oak, wasn't it?
TAYLOR: Yeah. White oak, yeah. ____
and some feet in it.
ALEX.: Yeah, that's a lot of . . .
TAYLOR: They skidded that there log, I'd say, they had
six horses on it, right up to a half a mile to the
railroad.
ALEX.: Huh.
TAYLOR: Oh, it stood up, it was that high.
ALEX.: Oh, my.
TAYLOR: Sixteen foot long.
ALEX.: Able to shake hands across it, huh?
TAYLOR: Well, that's about right.
ALEX.: You said, I think
you told me you got a cut out of the limb, too, about a ten-foot cut.
TAYLOR: Yeah. We got, there's one limb we got a
ten-foot log out of it.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: Oh, it was, I'd say, runnin' right around 18
inches over the limb.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: But the other was, it was just growed in the,
kind of in the pasture like, I don't know, just bushed
out. But we got this one log out.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: Yeah, now, uh, when we was workin' for the
Spruce Lumber Company, you didn't have to buy 'em. They
furnished your tools. But, now, if you was workin' for these
contractors like Ben Campbell and all them, you had to
furnish your own tools.
ALEX.: Yeah. You say those crosscuts, 5 1/2 foot,
cost you about a dollar a foot?
TAYLOR: Well, it cost you right around 5 1/2 dollars.
I've bought a many of 'em for 5 1/2. I didn't ____. It
cost you, I expect, Simon*, see they had two saws, Simon* and Atkinson*. I sawed in these contests.
ALEX.: Is that right?
TAYLOR: Yeah. I sawed at Elkins, Richwood ____.
ALEX.: Uh huh.
*: Who'd you saw with? Who'd you saw with?
TAYLOR: My brother.
ALEX.: Your brother and you sawed in the, in the
sawing contests.
TAYLOR: Yeah. This here Elmer Workman here at
Marlinton, he was the demonstrator for the Simon saw and Hicks
over at Elkins was the demonstrator for the Atkinson
and each of that company, if his men would win, why he got
the advantage of the other fella sellin', sellin'
these saws to these companies, I mean, these contractors.
ALEX.: Oh yeah, yeah.
*: You were a pretty good sawyer, then.
TAYLOR: Huh?
*: You were a pretty good sawyer, then.
TAYLOR: Well, I'll tell you what we done. I'm not braggin' on myself. We cut two 20 inches, you know, 20
inches is a pretty good size log.
ALEX.: Yeah, it's a good cut.
TAYLOR: It, well, it was
peeled, a chestnut, in 31 seconds, two cuts, now.
ALEX.: Two cuts in 31 seconds.
TAYLOR: We sawed against,
uh, two Hanna boys, two Hanna boys at Elkins, was the hardest beat I ever saw.
ALEX.: Huh.
TAYLOR: Now you had to get on it you beat them boys.
Now we used a six-foot saw there.
ALEX.: Did you?
TAYLOR: Yeah, yeah.
ALEX.: Guess you had them pretty well filed.
TAYLOR: Oh, they went down. They'd have to go down at
that there rate*.
ALEX.: Thirty-one seconds, two, two of them.
TAYLOR: That there's 40 inches, you see.
ALEX.: Yeah.
*: How many, how many trees did you cut in a
day's time?
TAYLOR: Well, they just cut them off in, uh, this thin
blocks. We, we sold I don't know how many of them
blocks. Them boys out of these here big cities, they'd just
grab 'em and make pictures of 'em. They took and fixed
'em some way and made pictures of 'em.
ALEX.: Oh, yeah.
TAYLOR: Yeah, we sold a lot of 'em.
ALEX.: Where you'd made your cuts?
TAYLOR: Yeah.
ALEX.: I declare.
TAYLOR: You didn't cut 'em very wide. The thinner you
cut 'em, why, the better they liked 'em.
ALEX.: Yeah. Uh huh. What about in a regular day
cutting. I think you told me it took about half a day to
cut that big white oak.
TAYLOR: Yeah, it did. It took us half a day to cut
that.
ALEX.: About how many board feet could you cut and
what did you get a board foot?
TAYLOR: Well, we cut by
the thousands in board. I don't know how you count that in board feet,
but, uh, we cut anywhere from 8 to 9,000 a day.
ALEX.: Yeah. What ____.
TAYLOR: Two dollars a thousand. You had to do your
own swampin' sometimes.
ALEX.: Yeah, huh. ____.
TAYLOR: Well, if you made
5 dollars or something 5, if you run under 15, you wouldn't make no money.
ALEX.: Yeah.
*: Did he pay you according to how much you cut?
TAYLOR: That's right. That's what they paid you for,
whatever you cut. Cut 5,000, you got paid for that. That
was ten dollars, that was divided up between two of
you.
ALEX.: Five dollars a piece.
TAYLOR: Right.
*: How long did you stay when you went back up in
those camps?
TAYLOR: Well, you'd stay 30, 30 days, something like
that.
*: You came out and come home to your families?
TAYLOR: Yeah.
*: How long did you stay with families, before
you'd go back?
TAYLOR: Well, maybe you'd stay three or four days and
then go back.
*: How'd you travel back and forth in those days?
TAYLOR: Well, just about every way. Went, uh, up the,
when we got up so we could buy an automobile, we got one
of these old Model T automobiles and we'd go to Cass and
catch a train or up that way.
ALEX.: Uh huh.
TAYLOR: You got a free ride that way, up from Cass, on
around by train.
ALEX.: I see.
TAYLOR: And then we'd use these motorcars, uh, they'd
loan us a motor car and we'd pump that thing. It's take
four men, you know. Well, the handle stuck out and two'd turn their back, backwards and lookin'
ahead. We went that way a lot.
ALEX.: Yeah. You kind of had to work to run one of
those cars.
TAYLOR: Yeah. Yeah, you had to work ____. Same as ridin' a bicycle. That's about right.
ALEX.: Yeah, yeah.
TAYLOR: Pumpin' that thing.
ALEX.: Yeah. Bet you miss sawing with your brother.
TAYLOR: Yeah. Well, like those Gibson fellas, I mean,
I cut with them the longest.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: I had a picture here if I can find it. He
wore wool knee britches when he worked in the woods and now
that's how small he was.
ALEX.: Huh. Is that right?
TAYLOR: You know them boys in, back then they wore
knee britches that come off up here and they had a kind of a
band around 'em.
ALEX.: Uh huh.
TAYLOR: But I never can find that picture. I don't
know where it is. I'm just a few years older than he is.
ALEX.: Yeah. He's still living, you told me.
TAYLOR: Yeah. I got, uh, two brothers still livin'.
ALEX.: Well, I think you told me he was up on Galford Street.
TAYLOR: Yeah. Well, both of 'em lives up there.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: Both of my brothers lives, they this one owns
a farm up there.
ALEX.: How long have you lived here?
TAYLOR: I've been here ever since 1932.
ALEX.: Thirty two. You've been here a while.
TAYLOR: Yeah, quite a while.
ALEX.: You raised your family here?
TAYLOR: Yeah.
ALEX.: That's a pretty good while.
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TAYLOR: They've got a huntin' club over in Virginia.
ALEX.: Yes.
TAYLOR: Down in that, uh, Wychoiva.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: I went over there and roofed a buildin' for 'em
and put up a little buildin' and then, I done quite a bit of work over here at ____. Cleaned out, they, they,
see his father and mother is buried over there.
ALEX.: Is that right?
TAYLOR: In, uh, the church, they go to that church
over here where, down in below Watoga. We painted it,
roofed it, fixed it all up. Oh, it was in terrible fix.
That there graveyard was over here when we went over here
to fix it. Cleaned it up, put a fence around it.
ALEX.: Yeah. Craig, he said he knew you. I stopped
there and gave a picture to him this morning and he said
to tell you hello and said you kind of want to watch high
places.
(Both Laugh)
TAYLOR: I climbed on a roof about a year. That ain't
been too many years ago. We painted for him, his, uh,
his warehouse. He's got a warehouse back behind
here.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: And I got up on there without my shoes and I
thought I could stick, you know, without gettin' a rope
around me and slip and he said, you better get off there. But I didn't get off. Yeah, old Craig's all right.
He's a pretty good boy.
ALEX.: Those fellow have been around there a long
time in that business, haven't they.
TAYLOR: Yeah, they have. His father and that there,
now one's crippled, uh, C.J. and Ed ____ the old
ones(owners)* and they run that store for years and these boys
took over again.
ALEX.: Yeah. They sure have a hard time.
TAYLOR: They've made a lot of money there.
ALEX.: Yeah, that's a good business. That's about as
good a business as the bank business.
TAYLOR: Well, one thing about 'em you can get anything
if you're honest there. They'll credit you. They
would, I don't believe he hardly ever sues anybody.
ALEX.: Yeah, doesn't have to.
TAYLOR: No.
ALEX.: You've done business with him?
TAYLOR: Oh yeah, yeah. I've bought a lot of stuff off
of him.
ALEX.: Yeah. You're probably not by yourself there.
Bet a lot of people have bought.
TAYLOR: Yeah, that's
right. Guess a lot of people have bought there. I don't know who was, somebody tellin'
me not too long ago that he was worth right around 80 or
90 thousand dollars.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: That there one you, that Craig, you know.
ALEX.: Yeah. I wouldn't doubt it.
TAYLOR: That's what they said, that he's worth 80 or
90 thousand dollars.
ALEX.: Yeah. I wouldn't doubt it at all.
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TAYLOR: ____* in those camps, you know.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: But they, I'll have to give this young
generation, these here women and these younger people credit.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: Now when they come up, we got rid of the bed
bugs. Well, we did.
ALEX.: That's right. Yeah, that's right.
Kind of cleaned them up.
TAYLOR: Yes, sir. And course that was nothin' but you
know, just what you call dirty* stuff.
ALEX.: Yeah.
TAYLOR: But I'll give 'em credit for that.
ALEX.: Yeah.